CFM: Revelation 1-5

Original title: Revelation(s): Do we worship the same Jesus?

In this episode, Brendon and Skyler discuss the forty-ninth lesson in the LDS Come, Follow Me sunday school manual. This week (December 4-10) is titled “Glory, and Power, Be Unto...the Lamb for Ever” and covers Revelation 1-5. 

We invite you to worship with us on any Sunday - either at First Baptist Church of Provo or Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna. We welcome visitors!  

Pastor Brendon's Colossians series can be found here and/or here. 

Seminary Manual: here, here, here, and here 

D&C 93; 82.10; 130.10-11,20-21; Alma 42.13, 22, 25; Mormon 9.19; 2 Nephi 2; 1 Ne 14.18-27; Ether 4.16 ; D&C 113 (and here); 77; 7; 132; 137 

Gospel Principles and here, here, here 

Joseph Smith: here and here; The Lectures on Faith 

“Happiness Letter” (also here and here) 

• HC 1.176: “The Spirit of the Lord fell upon Joseph in an unusual manner, and he prophesied that John the Revelator was then among the Ten Tribes of Israel...to prepare them for their return from their long dispersion, to again possess the land of their fathers.”  

“The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent” ; “A Perfect Brightness of Hope” (Jeffrey Holland) 

“Our Relationship with the Lord” (Bruce R. McConkie) 

“We Look to Christ” (Gordon Hinckley) 

“The Constitution: A Heavenly Banner”; “Civic Standards for the Faithful Saints” (Ezra Taft Benson) 

Waiting for the World's End: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, edited by Susan Staker:

• "[President Kimball] made the following remarks: ...Some have said that I was very presumptuous to say that Brother Brigham was my God & Saviour. Brother Joseph was his God. The one that gave Joseph the keys of the kingdom was his God which was Peter. Jesus Christ was his God & God & Father of Jesus Christ was Adam." (p.150)

“Becoming Like God” (Gospel Topics Essay; cited in the Seminary Manual) 

The New Testament Made Easier by David Ridges 

Doctrinal New Testament Commentary by Bruce R. McConkie 

The Revelation of John the Apostle by Richard Draper and Michael Rhodes 

The Great and Abominable Church of the Devil; Many Are Called but Few Are Chosen by H. Verlan Andersen 

Gospel Trilogy; Prophecy and Modern Times by Cleon Skousen 

The Words of Joseph Smith, edited by Andrew Ehat and Lyndon Cook 

• “Revelation is one of the plainest books God ever caused to be written.” (p.188) 
• “There is no angel [who] ministers to this earth [but who] either does belong or has belonged to this earth. And the angels do not reside on a planet like our earth, but they dwell with God, and the planet where he dwells is like crystal, and like a sea of glass before the throne.” (p. 169) 
• “Probably those were beasts which had lived on another planet than ours.” (p. 171) 

Compare President Wilford Woodruff and Elder Bruce R. McConkie on the question of eternal progression:

• "If there was a point where man in his progression could not proceed any further, the very idea would throw a gloom over every intelligent and reflecting mind. God himself is increasing and progressing in knowledge, power, and dominion, and will do so, worlds without end. It is just so with us. We are in a probation, which is a school of experience." (Wilford Woodruff, JD 6.120)
• "Now may I suggest the list of heresies. Heresy one: There are those who say that God is progressing in knowledge and is learning new truths. This is false - utterly, totally, and completely. There is not one sliver of truth in it." (Bruce R. McConkie; Seven Deadly Heresies; Notice the condemnation of earlier men of higher church-rank then himself - including but not limited to Presidents/Prophets Brigham Young and Wilford Woodruff.)

Fundamentalism and American Culture by George Marsden 

Crucible of the Millennium by Michael Barkun  

As A Thief in the Night by Dan Erickson 

The Millenarian World of Early Mormonism by Grant Underwood 

“This Is My Doctrine”: The Development of Mormon Theology by Charles Harrell 

An Earnest Plea to Charismatics; An Earnest Plea to Seventh-day Adventists (Jason Wallace) 

The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul 

The Joy of Hearing; Revelation (BECNT) by Thomas Schreiner 

The Book of Revelation (NIGTC) by G.K. Beale 

The Returning King; Chance and the Sovereignty of God by Vern Poythress 

Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson 

All Things New by Brian Tabb 

Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God by J.I. Packer 

The Potter’s Freedom by James White 

Hume: A Very Short Introduction by James Harris 

David Hume by James Anderson (also here and here) 

Christian Theistic Evidences by Cornelius Van Til